{"id":29666,"date":"2018-01-28T18:27:09","date_gmt":"2018-01-28T23:27:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.wework.com\/creator\/creator\/?p=29666"},"modified":"2020-02-26T14:29:06","modified_gmt":"2020-02-26T19:29:06","slug":"ask-creator-cassey-ho-blogilates","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.wework.com\/ideas\/professional-development\/ask-creator-cassey-ho-blogilates","title":{"rendered":"Ask a Creator: Cassey Ho of Blogilates"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nine years ago, Cassey Ho quit the corporate job that was making her miserable and started following her passions: Pilates and fashion. Almost a decade later, she now has four million YouTube subscribers and is poised to launch the fourth collection in her activewear line, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.popflexactive.com\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Popflex<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, this spring. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2018\/01\/blogilates-group-800x542.jpg\" alt=\"Creator of Blogilates Cassey Ho and her POPsters\" class=\"wp-image-29668\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Since 2009, Ho has kept two things at the center of her business\u2014listening to her audience and staying creative. She regularly asks viewers to comment on her workout videos with requests for body areas to target, and then will package it in new and quirky ways, like a <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=dbcV95-sC9s\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Wonder Woman<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">-themed workout. Similarly, when she noticed more and more body-shaming comments appearing on her videos, she channeled the negativity into one of her most personal (and most watched) videos, \u201c<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=PsL7W-GHhJA\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The &#8216;Perfect&#8217; Body<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">,\u2019\u201d which reached more than 12 million views.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cWhen I started the YouTube channel, it was because I was moving from California to Boston and wanted my students to be able to keep following me,\u201d Ho says of Blogilates\u2019 early days. Now her unique mix of Pilates moves, pop playlists, and a perky personality can be seen around the globe, and her \u201cPOP Pilates\u201d classes are licensed out to nearly 1,000 venues <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.poppilateslife.com\/pages\/pop-pilates-class-locator\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">worldwide<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We asked Ho to share more of her creator story, including how she&#8217;s&nbsp;funded the company and developed a strong team culture.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>How did you find the confidence to stick with your vision when you decided not to go to medical school or to quit your corporate job in order to teach Pilates full-time?<\/b><br><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I\u2019ve always been confident in myself because I have been confident in my skills. Even when people didn\u2019t believe in me, I knew I would figure it out and be successful one day. I just kept working on my skills. It\u2019s not about being better than anyone else. Put your head down, work hard, and the facts will speak for themselves.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>While you\u2019ve said your parents didn\u2019t initially agree with you leaving the med school path, how do you think being raised by immigrants contributed to your own entrepreneurial spirit?<\/b><br><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Everything we go through makes us who we are. My parents came to this country, didn\u2019t know the language, and worked in the face of discrimination. That drive is also in me. They\u2019ve made me very conscious about spending my money smartly and making the most of my education. I put education at the forefront of what I was doing. But at some point, it became too much because it wasn\u2019t the only thing that mattered. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>How have you funded your company?<\/b><br><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Growing up, I\u2019ve always been entrepreneurial. In middle school, I started a cookie business by melting down Halloween candy and selling it to my friends and even teachers! I made some money that way, and so I\u2019ve always had some money saved up. In college, I had printouts of e-books that people didn\u2019t want to buy their own copies of. Probably illegal, but it helped me save up some money!<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Then, when I made my first purchase of fabrics to make my first yoga bag, I went to the L.A. fashion district, bought bolts of fab for a discounted price, and found a manufacturer in Oakland by flipping through the physical yellow pages! That\u2019s how we started. I never got an investment from anyone. I started with what I had\u00a0and built it from there. I grew the way I knew how to. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Who was your first employee?<\/b><br><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Unofficially, my parents. They let me use their garage, which then expanded to the living room, the family room, and the kitchen before we got our own space.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">My business partner\u2014now fianc\u00e9\u2014Sam Livits was my first employee. Since we were small, he did everything. He helped me film the very first video. We used a tiny camcorder and the sound is terrible. That was his first duty, but now what he does is negotiate brand deals and manage e-commerce and technical stuff on our site.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2018\/01\/blogilates-neon-1-571x800.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-29672\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><b>After establishing a following for your fitness videos, how did that translate to customers for your activewear brand?<\/b><br><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As the YouTube channel started to grow, I got an audience who trusted me. It\u2019s really important that your fans know you and they can trust that you wouldn\u2019t screw them over. It gives you a marketing power that is so unique. When I did launch my first T-shirts, they sold out in a minute. Then they started asking for leggings. I was inspired by what the audience asked for and meshed that with my creativity.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>It can be difficult for scrappy, ambitious entrepreneurs to give up control after wearing all the hats in their business. How have you dealt with that as your team has grown?<\/b><br><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That\u2019s something that I\u2019m learning how to handle better. My best advice for that is to hire people who are better than you at those certain things so you can feel comfortable giving up control. If you don\u2019t hire someone better than you, you\u2019ll always see the faults and it won\u2019t be good for the business\u00a0because you\u2019ll always be checking their work. They need to impress you. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote\"><blockquote><p>It\u2019s really important that your fans know you and they can trust that you wouldn\u2019t screw them over. It gives you a marketing power that is so unique.<\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><b>How big is your team now?<\/b><br><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We have 10 people, including the people in the creative office in L.A. and shipping in Northern California. We\u2019re <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.indeed.com\/q-Blogilates-l-Los-Angeles,-CA-jobs.html?vjk=00701fd44d93d800\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">hiring<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> all the time because we\u2019re drowning in work.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I found that has been one of the most difficult things\u2014finding people that align with your vision and personalities that can help you build that solid culture.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>How would you define the Blogilates culture?<\/b><br><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Our culture is happy, positive, very encouraging. Basically, who I would like to hang out with. All of us work really hard and are really creative. During our interview process, we try to do tests to make sure we all can work together. Talent is important, but not as important as being able to let your ego go and try the best you can to get the results. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote\"><blockquote><p>If you don\u2019t hire someone better than you, you\u2019ll always see the faults and you\u2019ll always be checking their work.<\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Who do you turn to for advice on how to create culture?<\/b><br><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I talk to fellow CEOs and businesswomen about culture and hiring all the time. I have a core group of YouTube friends I talk to, including <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCyC_4jvPzLiSkJkLIkA7B8g\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Lindsey Stirling<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/RosannaPansino\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Rosanna Pansino<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCfm4y4rHF5HGrSr-qbvOwOg\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Lilly Singh<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCey_c7U86mJGz1VJWH5CYPA\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">iJustine<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, and <\/span>Payal<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Kadakia of Classpass. The more I talk to people, the more I feel OK with the problems I\u2019m having. When culture isn\u2019t going right, it eats at my heart. It\u2019s really good to know that it may not always be my fault.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-instagram aligncenter wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-instagram\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\nhttps:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/BWiBR1bBk_O\/?taken-by=blogilates\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><b>What areas are you hoping to expand into in 2018?<\/b><br><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We\u2019re trying to grow our wholesale business. We haven\u2019t tapped into this yet because we have an audience already who will buy our product. To be honest, I\u2019m not totally versed in this. It will be fun to learn. And we\u2019ll definitely need to hire for that. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>From the beginning, fashion has been part of the business, starting with you designing yoga bags while you taught Pilates full-time. How much of your business is the fashion component now?<\/b><br><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It\u2019s the biggest part of our business. Merchandise,\u00a0in general, is the biggest part. Stationary, water bottles\u2014everyone wants a piece of the brand and the story. That\u2019s something special that we have. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The personal touch is the reason the brand is what it is today. You can see that even with the YouTube videos, where I\u2019m talking about nails and shopping. That may not add to the workout, but it brings you closer. People trust people, not brands. It\u2019s important to consistently be transparent and be honest. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Where do you get inspiration for your fashion and fitness?<\/b><br><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I always ask fans what they\u2019re looking for. I do research on colors I think will be hot. We don\u2019t subscribe to trend reports. I just go with, I like stars, so let\u2019s go with it. So far it\u2019s worked. If you have a story behind what you\u2019re sharing, people will respond to it. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/ideas\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2019\/06\/Spread_1_small_2048x2048-800x571.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-29632\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><b>What\u2019s a recent example of producing something based on requests from followers?<\/b><br><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One of our hottest selling products is our Fit Planner. We just sold out of the 2018 edition. That started five years ago because people kept asking for a way to be organized and fit. Over time, we\u2019ve created [better and better versions] of these journals. This year had the best design and most positive response to it.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>You\u2019re getting married this year. With these big personal changes, do you imagine your business changing along with you?<\/b><br><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I do. In terms of product range, I see it changing. Leading up to the wedding, I\u2019ll do a bridal boot camp. I wouldn\u2019t feel good doing that unless I was actually getting married. Then maybe later I\u2019ll be making fitness clothes for babies! Life is exciting, and we should keep evolving and sharing with people as it changes.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>What are the two key traits that have contributed to your success?<\/b><br><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">My ability to be creative in problem-solving and my attitude of never giving up. <\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here&#8217;s how this entrepreneur grew a YouTube side project into a fitness and fashion brand reaching 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